Averaging out the number of communities, a total of $34,884 AVERAGE per community is generated in our churches for a CC year. The preferential treatment allotted to some families is damaging to the rest of the class and community. I dont see anything wrong in that. Please see the notes below on the calculations, assumptions, and figures used to come up with these estimates. I am so truly grateful. It helped me immensely. Ahhh nothing says Christian like the profit motive and pure godly intimidation. Having been in CC for 8 years, tutored 2, directed FE 3 going on 4 I think Ive been through the gamut of what CCs structure and business model holds. Based on reported enrollment of over 120,000 students in U.S. programs and detailed data provided by former CC contractors, annual revenues are estimated at between $15 million and $40 million. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. I was asked to continue directing and had to break it to higher-ups that I just couldnt anymore. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The Homeschool Convert 6.03K subscribers 160 We have homeschooled for 20 years. I dont regret doing it. Brown affirms how the education company made it right when his church faced a massive tax assessment. I no longer woke up from the middle of the night in a panic that I was missing something or doing something wrong. Why doesnt this article compare corporate CC to any other publishing company, nor disclose anything but a high number of corporate income for shock value, ignoring any expenses or employee salaries in their company? While there are some things I dont agree with in the CC corporate structure, to call it a pyramid scheme or MLM is niave and ridiculous. The relationship of church and state is surely complex, as theologians over centuries have stated. THIS report is spot on! // Browns failure to do a quick google search // // I wish this article was about exposing draconian tax laws instead of criticizing CC. Classical Conversations Plus (College Credit) CC College Students. $16.99 + $4.29 shipping . Soon, CC leaders urged her to lead state operations as an AR for Arizona. Note from Julie Anne: Here is a personal account that was sent to me. With 14 years of prior teaching experience, she easily recruited mothers of school-age children to the CC program, which met weekly in a local church. They also rely on how they know community becomes something families feel they cannot homeschool without, which increases the feeling of Directors being compensated without costing CC Inc financially, because they are really doing it for their kids. That said, after the spring and summer preparation that comes as tutor or director, my experience with the program is 100% a rewarding albeit challenging experience. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. We do this through a Christ-centered and family-friendly approach to homeschooling that makes everything biblical and hospitable, focused on three simple key areas: Classical, Christian and Community. Her business idea capitalized on my willingness to make pennies for my labors in the field I have a degree. After all, religious freedom really only applies in the church building, not in the public square. They express zero empathy for anyone other than themselves and their immediate friends and family. While our descent from biblical principle to human wisdom could take up volumes, suffice it to say that we have lost our founding principles. That is not almost nothing or not much money as it is often described and justified. We learn together and grow together. What he, The insidious, slippery departure from biblical principle has brought with it an unintended consequence. In state after state, its a story repeated with only slight variations about CC. Unfortunately, yes. Truth is required to inculcate wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. They would have to completely overhaul their business model.. When you homeschool with Classical Conversations, we connect you with a local community of like-minded families who not only learn together, but do life together. They do not. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? It doesnt come easy, and I feel like the pushbacks Ive had to make are justified and worth putting my role on the line to protect the people in my community. Are the homeschool parents involved are doing this for financial benefit? Exactly, its amazing judging by the posts on this article how easily the church rolls over for Caesar. And I dont say that with any sense of being disgruntled! He does so far more perfectly than I ever could. May I suggest . After 22 years as an Air Force pilot, God poked Brian in the chest and said, You will homeschool!Within two months of his retirement, he was tutoring Challenge B with his eldest son. There will be consequences to their choices. Classical Conversations, Inc. (CC) bills itself as a leading faith-based homeschool education company that enables homeschooling parents, upon being contracted as local CC directors, to make extra income while providing an important local ministry. What motivates the article is an attempt to report the truth and raise awareness of these issues to all churches and Christian non-profits that desire to operate truly above reproach. I hope these replies are helpful. CCs stated mission is to know God and make him known, a motto popularized by evangelical ministries The Navigators and Youth with a Mission. Adam and Eve discarded God's words. Data was submitted by students in a random sampling of Classical Conversations graduates. CC is doing the same thing, but it's less likely to be spotted due to the fact that they portray themselves as a ministry, "just a group of homeschool moms," along with the fact that often educational institutes are non-profit, so we just assume that's the case. My energy was now focused on growing as a classical learner alongside my kids. He and his wife live in the Washington, D.C. area with their two children. Regardless of the nature of the subject, the for-profit aspect of an organization is the determining factor whether an exemption can be granted, she stated. New CC Connected To know God and to make Him known. God knows that when you eat from it you will be like God, knowing good and evil. And the final result? In reporting a survey last year of CC directors, Bortins said that the number one issue reported by directors was the business training aspects of CC programs. Application Fees (based on average fee) for Foundation Students: 74,000 x $85 = $6,290,000 Monday - Friday: 8:30 am - 5:00 pm. The freedom educationally this school year has been beautiful. Estimates show that corporate makes almost 75% (actual is 73.7%) of what a director makes in an F/E program (and MORE if you are just looking at Essentials). Despite this, CC continues to grow. That confirms even more that this is a pyramid scheme, which as you know it is better to be at the very top or at the very bottom of it if you are caught up in one. 92%. Developing curriculum and services which ensure Classical Conversations families are equipped to conquer any obstacle in their pursuit of Christ. This is a textbook self-centered and self-righteous comment. Parents who responded to her pitch were shuffled off to nearby local CC chapters. Former CC director. Even directors who like the program admit to making little money. The community we joined became like a family to us during the incredible difficult time of caring for our parents and during a life-threatening illness with one of my children. My accountant asked, OK, wheres the six percent service charge youre supposed to be charging on the tuition? It turns out every director in our state had been operating outside of the law for years, she told me. We are going into our 5th year at CC. Estamos aqu a tu servicio. We regularly consult with our legal and tax advisors to ensure we are acting with integrity and in compliance. She said CC representatives accused them of being outside the will of the Lord, which spread and caused even her kids to lose friendships. Immediately after getting the bill, Brown called Robert Bortins Jr., CEO of CC, which is based in North Carolina. Dispute, deny, distort, discard. Satan tried it first1. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Great! The idea that there is a Truth higher than our own, that man is not the final authority was thrown under the bus. Our biblical foundation has already been discarded, and the sooner we recognize that our Constitution is now in the crosshairs, the more ready we will be for this next battle. And if we are talking about homeschooling groups, why not talk about every other event held at churches weddings, funerals, concerts, , etc.. all of these are events that use churches. This is incredibly biased, and full of a lack of information and is more a scare tactic than anything else. From its origins in 1997 with 11 teenage boys in the basement of Leigh Bortins Winston-Salem home to now filling over 125,000 student seats enrolled in its programs, Classical Conversations always was and always will be about family the Bortins family following Gods guidance in teaching other families how to train up [their children] in the way that [they] should do.. Director Portion of Tuition Pad for Challenge Students: 24,500 x $1055 = $25,847,500 They are the family who can truly understand my daily struggles as a homeschooling mom. Are those businesses qualified to have tax-exemptions on their properties? On two occasions, CCs cut was as much as 33% to 60% of a directors total revenue. The Prophets also expressed the same concerns to previous generations. About 24,500 Challenge students. Community is at our core, with families doing life together as they learn. Also, this does not include California numbers, which have application fees of $215 and tuition of $365.. Several reported less than $800 profit for a years work, and one reported losses multiple years. I needed help making sure my kids continued to learn on the days/weeks when caregiving took my attention. The education company also assumes what sounds like pastoral authority when conveying its policies to contractors. Curriculum provider Classical Conversations Inc. runs a unique homeschooling business model, recruiting homeschool parents as directors, who then conduct weekly classesusually in churchesusing CCs curriculum. When the number of blatantly blasphemous events (laws, court decisions, and so on) reaches its climax, the content citizenry will become discontent. Im putting in all these hours away from my family at meetings, and not getting anything out of it, Bothur said in a phone interview. Representatives from CC and ADF were contacted multiple times to ask for their comment, including a list of more than a dozen specific questions to CC Inc. Thanks for all your work. Thats entirely understandable and within their rights as US citizens. Give a gift of any amount to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive In the House of Friends: Understanding and Healing from Spiritual Abuse in Christian Churches by Kenneth Garrett. What sets CC apart isnt the carefully crafted history sentences, the infectious list of pronouns the kids chant, or the way you can tweak it to be whatever you want at home. My children and my community are like family to me. 125,000 students. Classical Conversations can be more expensive than other homeschool options. In my opinion his ignorance is culpable and embarrassing. A true comparison would be admitting that directors would do much of this same work attempting to pull together a free co op for their children and have the subsequent lack of respect for the value of time or structure. Lets just look at those numbers. ***** Calculation Discussion ***** An error was made in the initial data supplied for the data table, which resulted in slightly different numbers reported at initial publication. I couldnt tolerate the corporate leaderships lying, manipulative tactics, and the lack of attention given to the begging and pleas of directors like me who saw problems, tried to bring them up while we were still in CC and committed to our roles, and begged them to consider some solutions we proposed (at the time I felt very alone; I know now that I have been one of MANY). According to Topp and several former CC directors I interviewed, CC recruits homeschool moms by appealing to the ministry benefit of the program, rather than stating up front that local directors are starting their own businesses. Additionally, it is estimated that another $67,000,000 is being paid to a bunch of individual businesses (tutors and directors) within the churches as well. So, our biblical foundations have been discarded. In this account, we read rigidity coming from the Corporate level of Classical Conversations (CC). They have the right to run the business as they see fit. Brown said he suspected CC knew about potential tax issues and thats why the company had this arrangement with ADF. . Monday - Friday: 8:30 am - 5:00 pm. Our Christ-centered homeschool curriculum is rooted in the classical model and is in tune with the way children naturally learn. In its 13-page licensing agreement, CC specifies a half-dozen different fees to charge enrolled families, how much to pay tutors, and (by extension) what percentage the director receives. Since our inception in 1997, Classical Conversations has used this timeless set of beliefs to guide how we interact with families and support learning in homeschool community. "You will not certainly die." Distort: Here's the real truth. There is no quality filter on free. (I pay for CC because I did free co ops for years. The question of exploitation has come up in a few groups Im in, and whether that really applies to CC when its often used to talk about migrant labor, for example, or human trafficking. Theres a lot going on behind the scenes here, but I had to do what was best for my kids and got out. *IF* education is truly ministry, why doesnt CC corporate become non-profit themselves? But according to our months-long investigation, which included speaking with over a dozen former CC contractors, three county tax assessors in two states, and multiple outside experts, CC hasnt amended its ways. As for the silenced parents there was not possibly enough information shared about the situation to really understand why the legal letter was sent to Palmer for instance. Give a gift of any amount to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive "In the House of Friends: Understanding and Healing from Spiritual Abuse in Christian Churches" by Kenneth Garrett. At a homeschool convention in 2017, Topp told Bortins about the book. The support of community enhances our ability to fulfill parental duties. We regret the error. Justin Clardy on Love and Relationships Section 6: Emotions and Art in Public Life 29. The reason CC community businesses dont just convert to nonprofits is bc they cant stand the transparency/scrutiny (financial and ethical) that a true nonprofit board would bring. Homeschooled parents and children are sometimes exploited. Two CC directors who spoke with The Roys Report said they believed that when a church charges their chapters zero rent, their weekly CC community meetings have no impact on the churchs property tax exemption. You've landed on the Classical Conversations member site that is dedicated to supporting our international members. Then again, we would not have expected to hear anyone advocating the abandonment of the Bible. Among them are Bothur. I just want to note for those who do not know the CC model. I had two older children who were on a solid plan for high school/college prep and would not have flourished in CC. 4. Some did, but the reality is the majority of Directors are already consumed to the Max with child rearing responsibilities and rarely peruse the corporate webpage looking forward information that should have been broadcast widely. Using 50,000 families, our average family size is 2.5 children per family (this is applicable to calculating our application fee). After all, pursuing happiness is, The Department of Justice can distribute an internal memo directing employees to verbally acknowledge homosexuality as a valid lifestyle, because silence on the matter will be interpreted as disapproval, We have abandoned our biblical foundations by disputing, denying, distorting, and finally discarding Gods principles. Our own wisdom? Im all for capitalism, but this is exploitation., Annie Ferguson, whos a CC enthusiast and remains a CC director, also admitted, It was frustrating and intimidating for me when I started. Classical education embodies the most natural tools of learning. Foundations and essentials arent wasted time, its building strong blocks of memory to serve later. Challenging entire families to cultivate the art of wisdom through knowledge and understanding. If tuition increased to be a fair wage to Directors and tutors, and if Directors had to pay market value to rent a facility for their business activities, the price per student would place CC out of reach of most homeschool families. The final straw for Veale was seeing a woman she had recruited be mistreated by higher-ups. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The insidious, slippery departure from biblical principle has brought with it an unintended consequence. Four days later, Palmer agreed via correspondence to stand down and not send further e-mails. Its a commercial activity to deal in the rental business, she said. I just left a CC community and will never return. Christian-based education offered through homeschool communities constitutes worship and supports the religious purpose associated with the use of church property., For reference: we absolutely love CC. One question asks: Do you refrain from gossip or disrespectful, dishonoring talk? Their Integrity Checklist for Directors states: Please [assess] your commitment to the integrity of the process and product of CC . Several parents who posted in CC-moderated groups about a persons legal right to resell curriculum materials they own (per U.S. law) report being censored and blocked from those groups. Much of what is stated lacks explanation needing context for accurate understanding. Just for disclosure, my calculations do include assumptions and are made in good faith on the data / information available to me and some logical guesses. If they do inquire about how I keep my kids socialized, I get to tell them about the amazing community God brought into our lives with Classical Conversations. We have lost our basis for Truth. Attorney Michelle Adams of Boise, Idaho, who specializes in nonprofit law, said most states allow for-profit groups to refile their founding documents and convert to a nonprofit. Do we want to see CFA in a church? Yes. The founding documents will be our final authority and all will be well. Hows this for a definition of exploit? CC doesnt even remotely sound like the type of hill any Christian church should be willing to die on. The answer was TWO. However, Bortins dismissed critics during our interview and asserted that CC has a very bright future leading the classical education movement.. We must persevere so they will be girded with the belt of truth, the shield of faith, and the sword of the Spirit4. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Classical Conversations directors also may be misclassifying their employees. We must continue teaching Gods principles to our students day and night, when we sit at home and when we walk along the road, when we lie down, and when we get up3. Classical education prepares us to accept the responsibilities of Christian freedom. Weve never had any facility have to pay any sort of taxes.. Give the Biblical and Constitutional reasons why you think churches should be tax-free Remember what Jesus said about rendering of taxes unto Caeser? And when North Carolinas Love Wins Ministries is distributing food to the homeless in a public park, they should be forced to cease and desist or face jail time. Classical Conversations also has sales team members that make commission on every sale. Buckland said that when her family decided to exit the CC network, they also chose to leave their longtime church home. ___________________________________________________________________________________________, 2 Internal memo sent to DOJ managers in advance of LGBT Pride Month, found at, <>. With insight from our Lord, check yourself.. So of course no one wanted to stay. Some CC directors and contractors have realized the potential risk CC poses to churches and have sought to warn them. They openly express empathy for those whom may be being taken advantage of. The issues are are the concerns brought up valid? And is the fact that someone in that system being reported on is being taken advantage of a real concern or not to the commenter? There is nothing comparable to our CC family. It gave me perspective. She called me consumed with stress about an audit, recalled Buckland. We are above board in everything that we do., After reading a transcript of that webinar, Pastor Brown responded: This is blatantly false. I dont want to see that. We believe there are three keys to a great education: Classical, Christian, and Community. When you hear the word rhetoric, what do you think of? And when they leave sometimes they are slandered and their children lose their friends. I was no longer spending energy trying to find a curriculum and support group that would work. In 2016, Fremont Presbyterian Church in Sacramento, California, discovered this the hard way. next time do more diligent research with the trust people gave you and money. The companys 2020 Licensing Guide for CC directors includes over a dozen references to churches hosting CC groups including specific expectations about contracts, fees, and insurance. If they lose this exemption, it will be very expensive for them to pay property tax.. The real truth is that this mandate does not apply to the unborn. The article documents specific CC statements that are blatantly false, to quote Pastor Tim Brown. It is hard, but homeschooling is hard. Wrestling with truth promotes blessing and virtue for the whole community. Like anything man creates, there is brokenness. Con #3 - Cost. And many local directors have gotten in way over their head. Leigh Bortins is literally a genius. CC is good and bad, but I find the good outweighs the bad imho. Im the CPA mentioned in the article. Submitting first our own bodies, minds, and spirits to the work of Christ as we join the great classical conversations of history. I jumped in to CC because it offers classical Christian community, Ferguson said. We have fallen back on our own founding documents as the yardstick by which to measure right and wrong. She found that aggressive goals written into contractsupdated annually by CCensured her successful team hardly benefited from the education corporations growth. Yes the material is garbage, but I transferred to a director who knew how to run the campus at least even with the learning material being what it was. Classical Conversations Acts and Facts United States Presidents Cards . Ive been homeschooling for 24 years. Homeschool parents who formerly worked in these leadership roles also allege exploitative practices. This is so true. Classical Conversations Business Practice FAQ page only went live in December 2019, according to multiple reports from former CC directors. https://cchomeoffice.com/business-practice-faq/, Tax laws like these are almost always in as state of contest and geographic complexity After reading the article it seems that this tax situation is muddy enough to say that your claims of misrepresentation could also simply be an uncharitable way of denying the responsibility of Churches to understand the situation of a third party using their space *or* not taking into consideration the ways laws like these seem to be under contest (was it the failure of the CC chapter to know and make known their situation in particular, or Browns failure to do a quick google search? Amir Jaima on the Power of Literature 31. . Not just two. Also, there is confusion about tax issues. Except in a few states where the laws are different, CC relies on churches (and Directors, SRs, and ARs) being in the dark about how hosting a business could impact their property tax exemption so they will host CC for minimal fees. And when North Carolinas Love Wins Ministries is distributing food to the homeless in a public park, they should be forced to cease and desist or face jail time. (We) worked with them and got that issue resolved. Insiders such as CPA Topp, who have followed CC for years, worry that dozens, or even hundreds, of other churches may be at risk but dont realize it. Presumably the property tax would be pro-rated based on the percentage of income or of usage that was for-profit, or using the amount of rent that the group would have to pay on the open market. I am a conservative and I love homeschooling. Learn who we are and how we started. For instance again, this statement The CC chapter that met at Calvary Chapel Fremont also incorporated as a nonprofit in 2018. In 2020, a CC representative in North Carolina tried to use Browns same argument with his local taxing body, but it did not work. Some legal responsibilities directors must assume include doing background checks, managing tutors, making payroll, securing daycare licensing, and entering into a lease agreement with a church (or other venue). First is intimidation. (sorry, rabbit trail there). Learn More Classical Christian Community You Have Questions. TWO. It is promoted by its creators as "highbrow" and "high-IQ", "non-religious" and "devoid of an explicit fundamentalist Christian worldview." Classical Conversations students learn Classical Greek in order to study pagan philosophers. Hence, we are now disputing, denying, distorting, and finally discarding our own founding documents. 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