Cessna 172P Skyhawk, N97883: Fatal accident occurred October 06, 2022 at Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport (KPHF), Virginia National Transportation Safety Board - Accident Report Number: ERA23FA008 A Cessna 501 Citation I SP took off from Venice, Fla., shortly before noon. The comments at Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM were debunking the broken "busted minimums" mantra that some armchair NTSB investigators on here are parroting here from their misinterpretation of inprecise FlightAware data. The aircraft left quite an impressive impact crater, and both people aboard are presumed dead. The pilot, a 73-year-old female, was taken to the hospital with moderate injuries and is "expected to be okay," the city announced on Facebook.People reported the crash off of Buena Vista Drive around 2:40 p.m. on January 1. i blame it on the steam cloud. The stack is depicted on the approach plate as being 4304' MSL. Funeral services for Brittney Infanger will be held on Saturday, April 23 at noon at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Stake Center in Salmon, Idaho (please be in your seat by 11:45). 2021. Sorry about the un-closed bold run-on. Also, from a 2020 article:"Both Rex and Doris have been avid aviators since 1948. Yes,you are right, I did a copy and paste and wanted to refresh myself on comments on icing perhaps being a factor which I didn't know could happen in light snow. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. The approach plate shows the smokestack at 4,304' MSL. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred December 29 . It was a 100% bound to happen eventuality.I'm heartbroken it happened to such a bright and lovely soul as Brittney. ADSB data and Airport Surveillance Cameras are God Sends for looking into aircraft mishaps such as these. A Cessna 501 Citation I/SP plane, registered N66BK, was destroyed in an accident near Smyrna Airport, TN (MQY), United States of America. Doesn't make sense to say "I read all the comments" and then talk about runway lighting when comments upthread established that the crash at 8:32 AM was an hour and a half after the 6:56 sunrise. The tower was 60 agl, she lost altitude quickly when she hit the steam cloud. You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. first opened in 1940, and publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID. The tiny Cessna 210M aircraft with five men on board disappeared somewhere over the NSW Barrington Tops almost 34 years ago - the final, panicked transmissions from its pilot suggesting things . The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. It shows the end of RWY20 as 4143' at the threshold, and 4160' on the ground beside the potato plant. A loss of power, icing, or other emergency situation is definitely possible. 1984 Cessna Skylane II 182R. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME. Here are the latest details into LALATE. Their airplane was fully intact like this one.Here is a quote from that report:"The FAA published Seat Belts and Shoulder Harnesses, Smart Protection for Small Airplanes (AM-400-90/2). Ice on the rotor and starter blades affects their performance and efficiency and may result in flame out. Presumably, the decision to descend from cruise altitude for BYI on the accident day followed similar protocol.Let's look at the METARs available for making the real-time decision on each of those two days:The divert from BYI to Twin Falls on the day before the accident shows up as a turn toward TWF underway at 14:52:44 Z. Snow was observed falling. "The obstacle she hit was less than half a mile from the runway and at or below 100 AGL"Correct. 1 / 4. We know the outcome.Don't bust minimums. "The silos were within TERPS requirements. This can occur on take-off and landing and with sufficient rapidity to obscure the runway and other landmarks during a critical time in flight. On a hot day, fine droplets may evaporate before they can fall, so there is only rising air. You got misled by time compressed comm presentations provided as four minute videos on youtube. I will give the details below for others to replicate, but here are my conclusions:(1) If you start at 4800ft at JAMID, and then descend with a 3.75 degree angle from horizontal as advised on the published approach plate, you would clear the top of a 100' AGL stack by only *63 feet. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . There were three people on board who sustained injuries in the crash. Donations can be dropped off or mailed to Bill Allen Accounting at 533 Main St., Salmon, Idaho 83467. Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. The airplane was recovered to a secure facility for further examination. (All of the info presented below is offered with the understanding expressed in this posting and by others regarding usage of ADS-B data. Even after receiving her bachelors degree, all Brittney wanted to do was fly. As the Caravan started overflying the Gem factory, visibility further degraded due to the steam pulsed from the 6 stacks. The lawyers are going to have a field day with this one. The ladder going to the top of the stack is in three sections going to three platforms. Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. It may have been mentioned earlier, but the leading edge of the left gear leg looks crushed. The crash wasn't a result of a tower appearing out of nowhere, but an airplane appearing where it shouldn't be. Maybe it was a slow day at the Tater plant, but the "plume of steam vapor" from the stacks shown in the following aviation video seems fairly small and underwhelming. If she was still in IMC after minimums, the witness and security camera would not have seen her aircraft. Even a slight gust can carry the rising steam from the potato plants six stacks into the 3.75 approach path. 24 much safer and longer runway which I feel more comfortable with. There is no published airspeed for Engine Failure on Approach Emergency Checklist.Note: The Pratt and Whitney PT-6 Turbine was originally designed to pump water, hence the nomenclature PT for pump turbine. Again it was very unfortunate. This is a place where we learn what not to do next time. No experience on type but that seems like a big airplane for a little runway. CALCULATE A VDP, use that DISTANCE FROM THE RUNWAY as a point to start down or go missed. No civilians were reported injured on the beach, officials added. She was going to hit something as that rate was not arrested. It should also be noted that visibility was two miles just two minutes before the crash and 2.5 miles eight minutes after the crash. Even if you were trying to duck under, you aren't ducking at -857/min at 4800 ft. (Jamid) MDA 4560 which is 240 ft then another 406 ft 4154 elevation - 646 fpm would get you there (at 90 knots). It seems to be risky these days to express admiration about a man and his wife for their aviation interests, so the info above is offered without comment. But I don't find it baffling that a 95-year-old would not survive the accident. Also the color of the building itself? Her love for flying was only surpassed by the love she had for her family and friends. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation . It wasn't so long ago that people underestimated the serious effects of wake turbulence as well. For specific information, you may request a copy of . Well-stated, very good bias what-if scenario. it seems to me she became visual at or near the dh and continued the approach visually. It is possible that the Pratt and Whitney PT-6-114A, 675 shp Turbine engine experienced a flameout which would result in an immediate loss of power and subsequent descent. A few corrections:1. I'd be the same. You're missing his point entirely. Or maybe the pilot went around on the first pass *because* they were carrying too much speed. If so, should have gone missed a second time. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. Checking Notams for BYI, no mention of towers or obstacles with the exeception of a tower 30nm away. But I got my wish too. You have any proof of that? "Ducking under" wasn't still on the accident pilot's to do list by the time JAMID was reached. Reply Delete. Do that at many many airports and you'll probably hit something. Stack is 100' AGL, 4,256' MSL per the obstruction database:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285Full stack database discussion here:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650113710197#c2541529799564513775. . It was snowing at the time and snow showers would've probably reduced visibility. Go back in your mommas basement and eat your Cheetos and watch SpongeBob. Cessna T337G Super Skymaster, N337KN: Fatal accident occurred July 17, 2022 in Gold Hill, Boulder County, Colorado . Flaps don't seem to be deployed. The pilot went around on the first approach well before reaching the stacks and also at over 200 feet higher. I estimated that the top of the stack is maybe 150 AGL feet and about 50-60 feet above the building. The reported weather doesn't mean anything about conditions at the accident site. I know this is an uncorrected altitude for temp/pressure so if you add the 50 to 100' as suggested above for correction, that would put the aircraft at about 4250' MSL. 2 Vista residents killed in small plane crash in Arizona. "You're aware that the passenger who died was 95 years old (born in 1927). Osha's 42 inch guardrail standard x 20 comes out to 70 feet.This was the image used:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99Door opening height to clear semi trucks are 14 feet. Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! It is easily found on the Internet. [2] Vertical rate was approximately 900 fpm at last point and it appears it hit some silos at a food plant. A man lost his life and RIP to his loved ones and friends. On April 13, 2022, about 0832 mountain daylight time, a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Heyburn, Idaho. Preventing upper body collision with the instrument panel in relatively survivable accidents doesn't get enough consideration. With Texas Skyway 280HP conversion. The altitudes Flightaware shows are the uncorrected pressure altitudes reported by the aircraft's ADS-B transmitter. And if your flight path elevation there is correct (not saying it isn't), 4,365 is below the MDA of 4,560 so all pilots would have visual conditions before reaching it by simply following the MDA protocol.Here is the record for the stack she hit, obstruction #16-036731.16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285Full stack record discussion showing the source data origin, how to decode the obstacle record and a position verification to be certain of the correct match by mapping the 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W location is already posted up thread. Must have been one hell of a steam cloud. steam coalescing from 6 stacks into one plume, per NTSB report. The #5 comment about lowest cloud layer is important to grasp. poor maintenance blamed for cessna 337 crash. Among the victims were American singer and actress Aaliyah and members of her entourage, including a hairdresser, her . A non-precision step down IFR approach to minimums is one of the hardest things any Pilot is ever called upon to do. After a 1.5-year investigation, the NTSB could not provide an exact reason for why the pilot became . 0:32. "blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. The plane's pilot also died. Paint transfer from impact points to determine the planes flight path. There is a LOT of detail logged in the G1000 system onboard these aircraft. Let me throw mine out there if I may:The simplest, a descent to MDA that was not arrested. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred . Nothing was cut. &0183;&32;A 35-year-old Madison man died and a 23-year-old Madison man was injured in a two-vehicle accident on US 421 north of Madison Sunday night. She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. "Sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud!" that happens in many non precision approaches, very common.Someone commented:At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Airspeed of 88 is ok, yes it fell off but stalling speed is in the low 60's.2nd the descent rate is -857. I once nearly killed myself by misinterpreting what was before me driving my motorcycle at night through mist. Why assume a or b? AWOS data typically includes ceiling and sky conditions, visibility, temperature, dew point, altimeter setting and wind speed, gusts and direction, ASOS can additionally provide the type and intensity of precipitation (rain, snow, freezing rain), and obstructions to visibility such as fog and haze. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. One more correction, 230 feet above the ground isn't 160 feet above the stack. Here's a better angle of the stack and ladder that were struck with the right wing where you can see the gash in the stack, and the damaged section of the ladder.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGStreet view from US Hwy 30 in June 2019 of same stackhttps://www.google.com/maps/@42.5508056,-113.7581799,3a,60y,310.62h,98.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXjHKzC_zNsmc7-AQYHeIAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en. The pilot and three passengers, including the pilot's wife, were killed when the plane entered an uncontrolled descent, suffered an in-flight breakup and crashed near Hayden, Alabama. she went full power and still couldn't climb out of it. I want to add some info here, for what it's worth. I guarantee that the energy output that industrial plant is emitting into the atmosphere would rival the output of any heavy category aircraft. All three aboard were killed in the crash . Kathryn S Report Cessna 180f N180tb Accident Occurred August 20 2019 At Arlington Municipal On september 1, 2014, about 1050 eastern daylight time, a cessna 180, n6510a, was substantially damaged when it impacted trees and terrain during the initial. Source:https://trellis.law/judge/rex.h.minterAirmen registry shows he and Doris BOTH having Commercial Pilot and Mechanic A&P certs, ASEL, Instrument (plus AMEL for him), his last third class med exam 1998, hers 2013. You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). The airplane subsequently struck the smokestack and fell to the rooftop. A financial firm CEO was killed along with three others when a small plane that he was flying crashed shortly after takeoff in Georgia, according to reports . If anyone has photo/video evidence to the contrary, please share.https://youtu.be/fNIsBWj6nok?t=149, Excellent video, probably should cue up for 2:20 and tell folks to set speed to .25 because starting at 2:29 only allowed about two seconds of viewing before it's off to the races. So using the very unscientific method of looking at the Foreflight 3D airport view to visualize a KBYI runway 30 approach at a standard 3.0 degree descent angle, it is clear that those stacks are pretty much directly in your path. Really only SE piston and one helicopter showing on Flightaware. After graduating from ATP, Brittney was a flight instructor at Aero guard, Gem Air, and privately in Salmon, Idaho, and received various flight licenses, including commercial, instrument, multiengine, CFI, CFII, MEI, tailwheel, and seaplane. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. 80 y/o Airport in wrong place, or decades old Tater Plant position? At 1407 Eastern Standard Time [] on 26 May 2019, a Cessna Aircraft Company T210M (C210), registered VH-SUX (SUX) and operated by Thomson Aviation, departed Mount Isa Airport for an aerial geophysical survey flight with a pilot and observer on board. She was always striving to be an example of Christ and share His love with others. However, Brittneys favorite thing of all was flying. Hopefully that, and possibly cameras at the airport or in the vicinity of the airport can provide some information though most are not pointed towards the sky.Pilots that fly this route regularly will be intimately familiar with the obstacles and may even stay a little high and err to stay slightly on the right side of the approach or keep the diamonds centered and follow the flight director. That, combined with the snow, make it difficult to (1) visually appreciate the actual descent path being flown and, (2) see obstacles that are just protruding in the aforementioned path. Sure, reported airport weather can be different than what you experience on approach, but it is quite unlikely that less than 1 mile off airport, the ceilings dropped from 2100 AGL to 200 AGL and visibility halved from 2SM to 1SM to keep the pilot in IMC when the airport weather was trending in the opposite direction. If you want to talk about it, post there or POA. The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. If there is an option because the beach is completely unoccupied, is there an ideal choice to make between aiming for the sand or the water? Wasn't at night. Crashed at 8:32 AM. The mash adheres to the drums, but is not exposed to the steam inside, and dries. 1 - 24. What a dumb place to put the potato factory, lots of open land, but yeahhh lets put factory with stem stacks right on short final. However the one eye witness tells a different story. Also, if the pilot intended the first pass to inspect the runway surface and conditions, they would not have slowed down as much as on the final pass. "Don't bust minimums. Last edited: Dec 22, 2021. But that stack never should have been there. Information is only available from news, social media or unofficial sources. Display name: PaulS. The local city zoning allowed industry to build around the airport, not the feds. I venture that your confident swagger and language will be forever humbled. Operate below MDA at your own risk.. For one ADSB tracks are not reliable, for two how incompetent of .gov to put a stack right on short final. You make a good point regarding the stacks based upon Google maps. I highly doubt a certified pilot who clearly was enjoying flying out of SMO would want to close it. The single pilot 135 accident rate is actually much lower than the overall GA rate, despite the challenging conditions in which "those pilots" fly day in and day out. very sad. It doesn't provide the external factors such as bird strikes or the flight deck conversation to know the human factors. The view under the wing would give you about a mile as reported at the airport. I have never heard of a Caravan having enough turbulence to unport the fuel and cause a flameout.Thoughts? The plane is resting upside down pointing towards the probable point of impact about 90 feet away, with about a 190 degree counter clockwise rotation and flip supporting the left wing strike probably. "Nothing new under the sun." The entire left wing leading edge from tip to the square-cornered root is unblemished when you look at the 00:07 to 00:12 second close-up view in the Kameraone scene video. A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. except for a steam cloud that probably obscured some smoke stacks and towers. As seen in many urban locations, local city zoning permits industry to build around urban airports. I believe the stack in question WAS added relatively recently (it is NOT one of the six clustered together, is was by itself on a different part of the roof. It's very possible she could see the runway but wasn't seeing the smoke stack for various reasons, Perhaps was not following the flight director and passing weather unexpectedly started dropping heavier mist and snow just long enough to obscure visual.Here is the NEXRAD weather playback for the 1400 to 1500Z period, with BYI's location marked. You MUST ditch with full flaps and almost stall it right before impact with the water. A review of air traffic control (ATC) communication with the pilot revealed the approach controller issued the pilot the current altimeter setting and verified that the pilot had the current weather and notices to airmen reports for BYI. Yes exactly. Precision matters to actual pilots. Login; Sell Now; . The aircraft departed the Houston . @Cmor - Using 1 mile visibility was incorrect in your reply to that commenter.The 14:25Z AWOS report of 1 1/2SM visibility is displaced 5,260 feet toward the aircraft by the time the aircraft came into view of the camera at Gem more than 7 minutes later at 14:32:25 if you are applying the 7 knot wind as positional displacement downwind based on time elapsed after individual AWOS condition reports.1425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028AWOS shows 1SM, 1 1/2SM, 2SM visibility progression:KBYI 131420Z AUTO 20007KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC026 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. Others in earlier comments cited an obstruction of 60ft AGL with a lateral offset from the centerline, but that is *not* the stack that was hit.Here are the numbers I used in arriving at the above conclusions:(1) Runway displaced threshold length = 305.7ft (measured from satellite data)(2) Distance from runway threshold to impacted stack = 2633.4 ft (measured from satellite data)(3) Distance from runway threshold to JAMID = 1.6 NM (9721.8 ft) (on published approach plate)(4) Altitude when crossing JAMID = 4800 ft (on published approach plate)I included the 40 ft TCH elevation offset from the approach plate in my conclusions above.Assumptions:(a) Assuming the ground surface elevation at the potato plant is 20ft above the runway TDZE. In her job as Commissioner Doris is in the forefront of efforts to retain the very busy Santa Monica airport which is threatened by a very small but vocal group of neighbors and an unsympathetic City Council. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in dispatcher's mind.- Possible bias factors:5. A plausible explanation that in no way reflects poor airmanship. He then botched the landing by coming up short in the surf. Runway 20 has one. Operating Certificate(s) Held: Commuter air carrier (135), Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 1 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 8 knots / , 190, Departure Point: Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), Latitude, Longitude: 42.551433,-113.75969. These facts were demonstrated to tragic effect on March 15, 2012. Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report May 13th, 2018 - The NTSB has released the final report on the . "still baffling how one of them died. I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. "The captains poor performance during the accident flight was consistent with past performance deficiencies in flying nonprecision approaches noted during training; the errors that the captain made were likely the result of confusion over why the profile did not engage, his belief that the airplane was too high, and his lack of compliance with standard operating procedures." That's a stark contrast not likely to be mistaken for anything else. Would have blended right in with the white sky. Rest easy. There may also be weather equipment at that plant and it may have logging capability. The Flight Safety Cessna Caravan Emergency Memory Items Check List calls for Airspeed85 KIAS for Model 208 without flaps or with 20 degrees flaps for an Model 208B Engine Failure Immediately After Takeoff. METAR:KBYI 131440Z AUTO 21008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BKN030 OVC047 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131410Z AUTO 19008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN023 OVC028 M03/M05 A2996Track:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI. "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 301345. She was just building hours waiting to get on with a regional. Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. Not every pilot/operator does so, especially if its not required by the SOP.2. Sorry. The hot vapour rises, but condensed droplets tend to fall. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach. Solo/Missed Approach/Marginal Conditions/Challenging Airport = High StressIt's the perfect setup for one of those 'undiagnosed preexisting medical conditions' that have been making the rounds these days with athletes.The coroner's report should be interesting - condolences to her family. The billowing clouds suddenly blind you, and the aircraft loses lift at the worst possible time. Here are those METARs:KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997 --- crash occurred @ 14:32 Z ---KBYI 131440Z AUTO 21008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BKN030 OVC047 M03/M06 A2997In spite of those reports, the pilot's reputation is being maligned with the "intentionally busted minimums" assertion. Agree that the silos and chimney were not a factor; I did a Google maps street view and nothing is very high on that property. Seems like you are grasping for something to be upset about, or need to work on reading comprehension. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. "It would be more enlightening if you pointed out that due to TERPS, the only approach that could be approved was a non-precision LNAV with no vertical guidance and a steep 3.75 descent angle due to the silos and other obstructions."False. Our beautiful and beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece, cousin and friend will be missed more than words can express, but she will be in all our hearts until we meet again. The data point location after which the 4.1 descent angle increased to 6.5 is one statute mile from the threshold.The initial 4.1 descent angle compares favorably with the 3.8 to 3.9 angle the company's substitute pilot flew in VFR conditions from JAMID all the way to 7th Avenue just two days after the accident, but a notable difference is that the accident pilot's 88 knots airspeed was 40 knots slower while experiencing mist and light snow. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. Stacks on the roof at the collision location were photographed there in a 2018 Town News article about the plant.Street view images can be compared to the 2018 article photo that captured the six-stack array at the same height and in-line on the roof along the flight path just beyond the one that was struck. Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. Yes, the N56KJ CVR transcript and the fact that the top of the tail was not cleared because "it will blow off" are important reminders of how far you can go wrong with decision making focused toward get-there-itis.Having comments on N56KJ closed is unfortunate. When you think of Brittney, celebrate the memories you shared with her. From the many news sources From the ntsb, it was the steam cloud:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. The Newmar Dutch Star is available in 37-, 40-, and 43-foot coaches. The aircraft was well below the 3.75 degree "glidepath" at this point from the FAF to the TDZE of 4152'. 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